3 Checks to Know if You Should Use a Shoulder Rest on the Violin or NOT | Violin & Viola TV #214

by | Jan 5, 2016 | Play Comfortably | 4 comments

I’m giving my opinion in a very dangerous discussion here: whether to use or not to use a shoulder rest.

Some people think you can’t play the violin comfortably without a shoulder rest. Others say that shoulder rests ruined violin playing. The discussions around this topic can be very heated. People are very secure about their own opinion.

First of all I would like point out how dangerous it is to recommend someone to play with or without shoulder rests without analyzing how someone plays and what the shape of their body is. Chinrests and shoulder rests are very personal and must be adjusted to the individual player. Also the choice whether or not to use them is highly personal.

There are fantastic violinists playing without shoulder rest and there are fantastic violinists playing with shoulder rest. This proves to me that both is perfectly possible. If there would be ONE ideal shoulder rest (or none), every single soloist would use it. And they don’t… so there is not one answer for everybody.

There are so many types and shapes and brands of chinrests and shoulder rests? Why? Because we all don’t fit into the same shoes. Just like shoes there are various shapes, types, sizes and brands. Besides: wearing the same shoes every day isn’t good for your feet.

It’s good to change and it’s good to walk barefoot once in a while. The same applies for chinrests and shoulder rests. Don’t look for the perfect solution, but have a couple of option at home and change them once in while.

To help you on your way, here are three ways to discover which shoulder rest is ideal for you:

Stability versus freedom of movement

Personally I like freedom of movement while I’m playing the violin. I want to be able to look around, at my fellow players, at a conductor, at the audience and of course at my sheet music. Besides my neck and muscles don’t like to be in the same position all the time. That’s why I have a relatively low shoulder rest. I’m not stuck in one position.

With most shoulder rests stability and freedom of movement are two barrels.

For example the Bonmusica shoulder rest is very stable. This can be nice for people who’s violin wants to slide off their shoulder all the time. The Bonmusica has the advantage that it’s very stable and solid, so you can relax. The disadvantage is that you are a bit locked into one position. It works for some, others don’t like it.

Playing without a shoulder rest offers maximum freedom of movement, but it can feel less stable en can cause you to tense up. It works for some, others don’t like it.

With my VLM Augustin Diamond rest I’m a bit in the middle. I have the stability of a shoulder rests, but as it’s low I still have a lot freedom of movement.

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Long neck vs short neck

If you have a short neck you probably don’t want a big shoulder rest. You might be happier without shoulder rest or with a shoulder pad, like the inflatable Playonair. It’s also softer than a shoulder rest.

If you have a long neck, you might prefer a high chinrest and a high shoulder rest. There is more space to fill up between your collar bone and chin. Otherwise you have to tilt your head too much and you might get an injury. I haven’t seen much people with a long neck playing without a shoulder rest, but of course there can be exceptions.

How is your collar bone shaped?

When your collar bone sticks out you need to run to the hospital… Hmm, how can I phrase this correctly? If your collar bone is very pronounced, like with a lot of women, you might get pain when playing without a shoulder rest. However, if you have a nice layer of fat over your collar bone and your collar bone isn’t that much pronounced, playing without a shoulder rest might be easy for you.

To summarize:

  • Determine if you are looking for stability or freedom of movement. Do you move around a lot while playing?
  • Determine of you have a long neck or short neck… or normal perhaps?
  • Is your collar bone pronounced?
  • Don’t take advice from people who haven’t analyzed your individual body shape, playing style and possible problems!

I know a lot of you are struggling with finding the right combination of chinrest and shoulder rest. I hope I have attributed something to this topic.

Is this video helpful to you? Please let me know in the comments below! If you like it, share it with your friends!

Love,

Zlata

PS: Do you have questions or struggles on violin or viola playing? Post a comment below or send an e-mail to info@violinlounge.com and I might dedicate a Violin & Viola TV episode to answering your question!

4 Comments

  1. Tom Lockney

    I though it was helpful, as far as it goes. But there’s no real mention of chin rest aspects. I’ve read and heard several places that a long neck needs a high chinrest more than a shoulder rest. And, what is the “definition” of a long vs. short neck?
    As Zlata recommends, I go back and forth from no shoulder rest, to experimenting with them. But it gets pretty overwhelming to consider all the options–both different types of shoulder rests, then how to place them on the violin and body. I recently purchased a kreddle chin rest
    http://www.kreddle.com
    And their tips page
    http://www.kreddle.com/tips.pdf
    shows how incredibly complicated the adjustment of just the very adjustable kreddle can be. So, although I found this video useful, I think the “comfortable” placement of the violin involves a lot more than just the chinrest and Zlata’s three factors, although they are useful as a starting point. Anybody have any experience using e.g. an Alexander Technique teacher to help and give an objective viewpoint about one’s position, posture, etc.?

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  2. Fallon

    What about AcoustaGrip Shoulder rests? Have you ever tried one of those? They allow freedom of movement and they won’t damage your instrument.

    Violins and violas are merely sound amplifier boxes. The things that control the sound output are: the sound post, base bar, and most importantly the side & edge blocking inside of your instrument. These magnify and direct the sounds made as the bow strokes the strings. When you clamp any part of these components of your violin or viola, especially the “edges” or “internal blocking,” you will dampen your instruments’ sound and projection. The AcoustaGrip Shoulder Rest uses no clamps, glues or rubber bands and attach securely to the bottom or base of the instrument, and do not interfere with all of the instrument’s major internal or exterior acoustical parts. That is exactly how the great Master Violin makers designed violins hundreds of years ago.

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    • Violinist Zlata

      Hi Fallon, thanks for your comment. I use a VLM Augustin Diamond rest which doesn’t mute the violin. One of my students has used an AcoustaGrip. For her it was comfortable. She maintained it well and used the plastic thingie to cover it when she didn’t use it. However, after a while it didn’t stick to the instrument anymore and she thought it too expensive to buy a new one every few months. Are there solutions to this? All the best, Zlata

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